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Significant Coaching with Matt Rogers
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Significant Coaching with Matt Rogers
Episode #115: Luke Falk on Recruiting
šÆ Luke Falk: Recruiting Lessons, Resilience, and the Power of Mind Strength š
From overlooked recruit to Washington State record-breaker to NFL quarterbackāLuke Falkās journey is packed with lessons every athlete and parent can learn from. In this episode of the Significant Recruiting Podcast, Luke opens up about his unique recruiting path, the setbacks and breakthroughs that shaped him, and how āmind strengthā is the real difference-maker in both sports and life.
We also dive into the heart behind his brand-new book, The Mind Strength Playbook šāa guide for athletes, parents, and coaches to master the mental side of performance. Lukeās story is raw, honest, and full of insights that go far beyond the stat sheet.
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So I get in, I get the opportunity, everything gets all passed out. I commit two weeks later, the head coach leaves for the CFL to be a head coach and a gm, and I was already, once I committed, I was already feeling oh, I made the wrong decision. Like I, I feel like something bigger is for me. So that left Washington State opportunity to walk on, went and did that. Coach Leach said I'd have an equal opportunity to compete. He didn't lie to me. He was truthful, he was honest. Went up there and the stars aligned. It wasn't a Rudy movie. It didn't happen overnight. There was a lot of hardships. It's very hard to walk on. It's not just like you go in and you're like everybody else. It's not the case. But I was very fortunate. I worked hard and a lot of luck happened Welcome back to The Significant Coaching Podcast. I'm your host, Matt Rogers. 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That's where you'll find past podcast episodes, weekly blogs, my recruiting books and classes, and even details on how to schedule me to speak at your school or organization. Now, speaking of amazing guests, Luke Faulk has an incredible story to tell from walk-on at Washington State to record setting quarterback to his time in the NFL and now coaching and writing his brand new book, the Mind Strength Playbook. Luke has lived the highs, the lows, and everything in between. And today he's here to share what it really means to develop mind strength, why mental wellness and performance go hand in hand. This is a powerful conversation, so let's get into it. Here's part two of my conversation with Luke Faulk. I am so excited to talk some recruiting with you'cause you had a very unique route to division one football and the NFL. Talk a little bit about. What that journey looked like for you when you were 16, 17 years old? Yeah. Windy Path. I'll try to give you the SparkNotes version. Went to Logan High School, was in a system. I had an older quarterback who was DJ Nelson. I had a younger his younger brother named Chase Nelson, who was a freshman. I was a sophomore and DJ and I were. We were splitting time. So my dad, he's you know what, you're in a full Nelson. We need to get you to a school where you're gonna get an opportunity to go play. And at that time, we're living in Logan, Utah. He didn't feel like I would get enough recruiting. There wouldn't be enough foot traffic influenced by some quarterback coaches who planted that seed in his mind. So moved to California as a family, go to Oaks Christian it's Hollywood High. Everything was. Great. Just kidding. Nothing was great. Really. It was friction the entire time. Go play, don't do well. And within the first three weeks we ended up moving back to Utah because I had got benched. But really what the underlying thing is our family had split up. Our family had separated that time. So tremendous adversity at that point. And football was the last thing. And yeah, I wasn't playing well. So we moved back. The state of Utah deems me ineligible. When I moved back it wouldn't have mattered because they were already four and oh or five and oh when I got back here in Utah.'cause they started the season earlier. So my coach deemed me to be the ga, so I started filming the games, breaking'em down, doing all that type of stuff, not allowing me to be a victim mindset. And the, that team goes on and wins the state championship. They're 14 and oh. So what does that tell coaches? Oh, Luke Falk red flag. So the recruiting thing, I had an offer from Florida State off of my sophomore film when I went down to Oaks Christian that summer. We went to, we had gotten recommendation to go pop by campuses, get them to see the size of me and meet people and, talk some football. So at Florida State, Damien Craig was the quarterback coach, got a scholarship offer on our way to go to a Bahamas family vacation. It was like euphoria, right? Florida State was my favorite college solely off of their color of the uniform because they matched my old high school uniforms at Logan. Anyways. I'm like, oh, the offer's gonna flood in. Mom and dad are right about this whole thing, this guy. And then the wheels fell off. So going into my senior year, nobody really looked at me. Oregon State said that they were potentially gonna offer me and eventually they didn't pull the trigger'cause they didn't think I had a strong enough arm. Idaho, they came and watched me throw at the high school that summer and Al Papino filmed me. Did a good job. Jason Guest was the offense coordinator there, and I got offered and then I'm going and playing my senior year. I've got them, I've got Cornell and I got an opportunity to go walk on Washington State. Idaho staff gets fired, they pull my scholarship, say I'm not athletic enough, which they're not wrong. So right. Then Cornell probably the best opportunity I have in terms of. They really want me, they're probably gonna let the lowest a CT and GPA ever in Ivy League history. They're getting me into school, right? So I get in, I get the opportunity, everything gets all passed out. I commit two weeks later, the head coach leaves for the CFL to be a head coach and a gm, and I was already, once I committed, I was already feeling oh, I made the wrong decision. Like I, I feel like something bigger is for me. So that left Washington State opportunity to walk on, went and did that. Coach Leach said I'd have an equal opportunity to compete. He didn't lie to me. He was truthful, he was honest. Went up there and the stars aligned. It wasn't a Rudy movie. It didn't happen overnight. There was a lot of hardships. It's very hard to walk on. It's not just like you go in and you're like everybody else. It's not the case. But I was very fortunate. I worked hard and a lot of luck happened and, very happy and proud of my career. You're a dad. There was a lot there. Am I wrong a lot there? What's that? Are you a dad now? I'm a dad. I'm a dad now, 2-year-old girl. Let's say you have a boy at some point and your boy's in the same position you're in, sandwiched behind a freshman and a senior brother. What decision do you make? What advice do you give? It's actually funny enough, I write about, not the plug in the book again, but I provide parent tips and coach tips and all that throughout. And'cause I think so many parents, they just want to do the best for their kid, but they don't really know, they don't have a game plan, they don't have a playbook for it. And my parents were just doing the best they could. They're listening to this quarterback coach, who was a very high profile guy at the time. And what I cautioned people when it comes to transferring. So I had two transfers actually in high school. I grew up in a place called Farmington, Utah, and the systems there for me were. Daddy ball. I never got an opportunity to play quarterback unless my dad was the coach, because it was always the coach's kid. And they ran the triple option at all the schools that I was gonna be able to have an opportunity to go play. They asked me if I could go anywhere, where would I go? And I said, Logan High School.'cause, because my uncle was the a defensive line coach at Logan. The year before their head coach was running the spread offense and he took time to meet with our eighth grade football team and implement the spread offense. And that was the most fun I've ever had in my entire life, right? So I'm like, I want to go to Logan. Also, my grandma's lived there also Utah State basketball game. I had grown up going to Logan all the time. It was like a home away from home for me, so it was totally driven by me. I want to go and guess what? It was a total success. I loved it. I remember at Thanksgiving there we would go around the table. What are you grateful for? I'm so grateful. We live in Logan. Everything was a success socially football school, everything. Then. This next move comes about. It's not driven by me, it's driven by external. It's driven about by listening to other people rather than your kid. And I'm going along. You're 16 years old. Oh yeah, sure. I'll go. I didn't want it. I wasn't driving it. In fact, when we moved out there to California, I had bought a plane ticket with my own money. Which, it's not like I did a ton of chores or this, I can't tell you I, oh, I went and did this for summer jobs. I didn't. But I had my own money and I bought my own plane ticket a week after we moved because I loved Logan so much. So what I caution parents is are you driving it or are they driving it? And if they're driving it, okay, let's listen and is it gonna be. Holistically a great move for him at Oaks Christian, what's the dy, what's the dynamic there? Okay. It's a 30 minute commute school minimum for most people. So the community aspect's not great. There's just so many factors holistically. Also how often am I gonna see my parents? My dad was commuting. I gotta see him four nights, and then he was four days in Utah. He had this system. My mom, it's like, how often did I get to see her, my sisters, my friends, just nothing. From a holistic standpoint, w what would've told us that's the right move. It was all for football. What could it get us? So there's more to life than recruiting, sports, whatever. Think holistically. Think of your family. Think of what's gonna help your kid be the best human in as possible. That's what I would caution'em. So now, hey. What are you wanting to do and talk'em through that I'm work, I'm working with a kid right now. He wins the state, so not the, he's at a premier school here in Utah. They have a four star quarterback in front of him and another guy ahead of him. And the dad and I are telling him, Hey, this is the scenario. You're not gonna get a fair shot to play. I don't care. I want to be here. This is my social, blah, blah, blah. He stays, he eventually, he gets to play nine and oh is a starter state championship this year. That four star quarterback is healthy again, same situation. He's got opportunities to go transfer. He doesn't do it right now. He's not playing. I can't tell you that it's a fairytale ending, but for him, he's had the peace of mind knowing this is what I've wanted to do, rather than mom and dad shoving him out to go to a school that he doesn't want to be at. And I think so often the parent pushes the kid rather than the kid wanting it. It's like Dad wants it more than the kid. It happens every day, and I, if it happens once, it happens a hundred times. And so it's great advice. It's necessary advice. We want our kids happy and we have to buy into the fact that happiness may not get them. On the, that you want them on right away, but that happiness is probably gonna stick with them and that decision is probably gonna stick with them and make the rest of their life a lot better because of that. So totally that approach. I think something, can I, go ahead. Can I just do Please. I think something that can help with that is to separate your identity as a parent than with your kid, not wrapping what their success is as your success. Letting them live their own life. Like I've heard this analogy before, it's two sunny side eggs. The whites can be all over each other, support'em, love'em, do all that. But the yolks remain separate when you scramble it up and your identity becomes. Mix with them. That's when the lines get blurry. That's when you're gonna make decisions that you'll probably look back and go, that really wasn't what Junior wanted right there. Or wasn't What was best for junior wasn't what was best. Exactly. That's what I wanted. And they vicariously lived through their kid to make up for what they weren't. I see it all the time, especially in quarterback play like this kid, I'm, I'm not, obviously not naming names here. It's like I watched this dad drive his kid at nine years old and invest everything in it. The dad's living vicariously to the kid because he didn't get that opportunity. He wasn't that guy. And that to me, Carl Young's got a great quote about, like the greatest burden of child must bear is the unlived life of a parent, right? And it's so true. It's so true. The greatest thing you do as a parent, have your own separate life. Be secure enough in who you are so you don't have to vicariously lift through your kid and have, and lift them up to lift you up. Yeah. It's a huge weight for that kid and all the investments and all that. Even with mind strength coaching I see these parents invest so much money into everything and what does that do to the kids? It's they feel responsible to and obligated to go get the outcome that mom and dad wants. They make the moves, they do all this. It's anyways. I'll go on a tangent. You can see, no, it's passionate about it. I do too. I can lose my, I can lose my head about it. And I was blessed'cause I didn't have those parents. My parents were too busy to try and make me into something that I wasn't. I wanna throw a word at you and I want you to just talk about what you think about it. Is it real? Is it something we've made up? Can we do something about it? Pressure. Pressure. I think there are always gonna be pressure. I think that what we've probably done with youth sports in general is, like I said, just put more pressure on the kid based upon what I was just saying. It's not only is it the kid wanting to succeed, but it's mom and dad needing them to succeed, especially with NIL, with all the promises of being in the stardom, the spotlight, all that stuff. So I think we've added more pressure by almost I don't see it with every parent, but it's if you have a good outcome, you're loved. That's the message. If you don't have a good outcome, you know what are you? What are we doing? Love is withheld and it becomes conditional. So I think that adds more pressure and I think it provides more insecurity for kids these days. And yes. IL and all that. There's abso absolutely more pressure right there. It's like it's ton you. You're getting paid now, you're a professional. What is that doing? You know what are those things? And at that age, I don't think I would've been ready for it. In fact, in the NFL, it's like I probably wouldn't even ready for it I think there's way more pressure way earlier on, like my agent that talked to me when I was a junior in college is now talking to kids as a junior in high school. That's not right. I agree. Yeah. I guess my concern with it is, goes back, and I'll put this in context when I have, when I'm playing with little ones or my kids when they were little, and oftentimes they're gonna fall down and they're gonna cry. It feels like the end of the world. It feels oh, my knees skinned up and there's tears and it's pain. I learned a long time ago that I can get down at their level if they're, they're down on the floor, they're crying. I can get down and look at'em. Go, are you crying or laughing? I can't tell. And it's amazing how quickly those tears and that crying turns into a smile and a laughter.'cause they could see the smile on my face. I'm going, are you crying or laughing? I can't tell. And how quickly their mind can switch that off and go, no I'm laughing, I'm not crying. That pain, maybe that pain was all up here more than it was down here on my knee. Can we see pressure that way? Can we, I think it's, can we remove it? I think so. I think nerve what you're talking about is the same thing I teach with nerves, right? Not necessarily move it, but I think you shift the perspective on it. So Wayne Dyer, a guy that I really looked up to, he said, if you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change. I'll use nerves as an example. I had viewed nerves that when they came, oh crap, everything's gonna get locked up. Now I'm gonna get handcuffed, I'm gonna go throw up, blah, blah, blah, blah. What if I shifted my perspective of when nerves come one, I'm doing something I love, and two, they actually can take my game to a whole new level because the adrenaline's gonna kick in. I'm gonna throw the ball better, I'm gonna, be more dialed into my reads. So it's a shift of perspective. So now same thing can happen with pressure. Oh, what an opportunity I have. Blah, blah, blah, blah. It's just the way you look at it. So I think it, it comes with training or your environment around you to help you see it that way. But if you're coming from an environment that's, having you view it in a particular way, you're gonna see it that way. So it's all about perspective. Yeah. Have you seen the movie for the Love of the Game with Kevin Costner? I have. I actually quote it. I do too. I quote it all the time. It's, when he steps on the mound and it's clear the mechanism. Yep. I was never the athlete you were. I never had the success you had. I see that in you when I watch your film. Did you have something like that? Did you have tools at that point in your career where you could block out the noise or was that something that was natural for you? Not natural. So funny enough, that exact example is in my book and it was brought up'cause Kurt Warner, I asked him, Kurt Warner's a, super generous guy. I asked him, Hey, can you be part of my reader feedback group and read this, give us comments. And he actually made that suggestion off of a concept that I was talking about in a book. And so what it is, the concept, how it got brought up in the book is called Coding Skills. So what did he say? Clear the mechanism, which had him focus on. Not the outcome, not what people are saying, not this, that, and the other, but it was a mechanism for him to focus on what he could control. So when I have athletes code skills, it's in three to four words so they can remember it, right? It's very easy, it triggers it, but it has a deeper meaning. So clear the mechanism for him was a way to get him mentally engaged on what he can control. Playing catch in that situation for me, I had coded skills like that. So I'll tell you like a coded skill. I'm going on a tangent here, but it's good. I'll view one from a physical standpoint where you have physical skills, mental skills, emotional skills, spiritual skills. So there is in football. A guy named Tom House. For anybody that doesn't know who Tom House is, he's like the father of throwing pretty much. Quarterback guru. Quarterback guru. Nolan Ryland, Nolan Ryan Guru. Yeah. Yeah. Ton of that, right? Worked with Tom Brady. Worked with Drew Brees. Yep. So I was fortunate to work with him. He created a coded skill called Eat the Burger. What did it mean? When I'm done throwing, my offhand should be in a position that if you put a burger in my hand, I could take a bite out of it, meaning all my energy and weight's going towards my target. Yeah. Rather than saying that big, long. Definition there, you say eat the burger, which triggers all that meaning same thing can happen with mental skills, right? So clear the mechanism for Kevin Costa. It might've been a whole deeper meaning, but it triggers him into what he can control. Yep. And why skills are so important is because you can control them. And when you focus on things you can't control your anxiety. Increases performance increases. So for me, the coded skill that I created for myself that you're talking about there is called Cool Hand Luke and what that meant, I'm never too high, I'm never too low, right? But that coded for me. Hey, I'm cool hand Luke, I'm cool hand Luke. And that was my trigger. So it was my clear the mechanism and it doesn't happen. You have to train it. Because in high school shoot, I allowed all the noise to happen. I had no confidence. Yeah. But I, thankfully I worked with a sports psychologist that strengthened my mind just as much my body and that really elevated my game. Yeah. We invest so much money in PA as parents in the clubs and individual workout, and boy, that investment into sports psychologist might be the most valuable thing we can invest in. Think about this. You spend hotels, flights, gas, then the that and the actual team. Then the actual this. When it's done. How about mind strength? When you're done playing 18, 25, 45 years old like Tom Brady, you still have it. You're still gonna be with yourself. You're still gonna use mind strength with business. Who your relationship. Talk about an investment that has the most ROI outta anything, even the physical stuff. Yep. You need physical talent to get your foot in the door. I needed to learn how to throw a spiral before I could play quarterback. But what got me in to be able to play at a high level, my mind strength. And now what do I use? Is it, do I throw every day? Is the spiral really keeping my job security now? No. It's my mind strength. Let's bring it back to recruiting. Yep. Because it's not taking a snap in a big stadium. It's not throwing a pitch in the ninth inning or at bat, or, making a dig on the volleyball court. The pressure of recruiting. It's all around us. It's all the time. It's, it can be 2, 3, 4 years. You talked about getting an offer as a 15-year-old sophomore, right from Florida State, your dream school. Can we use those same principles? How we look at recruiting. Totally. What can you control in recruiting? Who do you want to go play for? How many emails are you sending them? What's your highlight look like? What are all the things that you can control? Rather than filling it, you're at the mercy of the coach or the mercy at the situation or the school, so that's what I try to do, even within my own athletes. I don't get hired for recruiting yet. I'll have some athletes that I'll give tips to because obviously I've been through it. Yeah. So what can you control in the process? And then a big thing too is can you shift your perspective on how you view recruiting in general. Most kids want to go play at the USC, the Alabama, this, that, and the other, but maybe what it's gonna take for you to be able to get there, if that's what you really want. Rather than just how you get viewed, which is another topic that we could go on forever, but you might need to start at the division two school. You might need that to be your start and go play and where are you gonna get developed and take your ego out of it. And do you really wanna play and do you really love ball? Or do you love what ball is gonna give you? Do you love what the hype is gonna give you? So I think you gotta separate that when it comes to recruiting of the kids that really want it and love playing the game, they don't have a problem going to the FCS score or the Division two score, or the Division three score, or the N-N-A-I-A because it's a farm system now with the way the transfer portal is. Yep. You're not stuck. So I even tell people, I caution you to go walk on now as a quarterback. Other positions I would still say if you want to, great, because there's more opportunities for you to show off on special teams or whatever. And I'm sure other sports as well. Basketball, right? I'm not sure the ins and outs, but quarterback, there's only one of you. So you better go play at a smaller school and you're gonna get seen. And guess what, they got a kid. The ole Miss starter right now. Fair State Division two. Now he's just starting in the SEC. It's like it is AAA baseball. It's AA baseball, and you're gonna get an opportunity at the big leagues. If I gave you 15-year-old Luke Falk who just got that offer from Florida State, how would you use that tool with him? How would what would, what advice would you give him on what that. Next day looks like? Or that next step looks like after that offer? For that kid in particular, he needed a lot of mind strength because he had a lot of confidence issues in terms of just, he had a whole lot of work he had to get going on, so I think, but he got an offer from Florida State? He did. He did? Yeah. He did get an offer from Florida State, but he was living off of this teeter totter in terms of it, it wasn't lasting. So when it got taken away, it's oh yeah, I'm not worth that. Yeah. You know what I mean? So I think for him it's working on the things that were gonna help you become a great player. It's not about, I've heard Tom Brady say it all the time, it's just when you get drafted, it's your start. It's where you start, it's how you finish. So what's gonna help you finish the best way. So for that kid, my recommendation to him was, go enjoy your trip'cause we're on family trip. And then when you get back, what can you work on to help you become a better player?'cause that's ultimately what's gonna help you. In the long run. I see it all the time with these top tier recruits. Yeah, that's your start. Great. That's your start. You might get more opportunity. It's like getting more money invested in you. But a kid like me who walked on, guess what? He's working on his game and he's gonna have a harder time. But his, he's coming for you. He's coming because he's working on the things that he can control to make himself a better player, which ultimately gets you on the field. So Sure. The hoop law and all that. Even in today's day, I'm sure people pay for stars, this, that and the other. What really is tangible really is gonna set you apart is can you play, are you working on what helps you be a better player? And then there are tactics Sure. Of getting recruited, which you know way more about than I do. You. You're pretty smart, my friend. I'm gonna throw a Chinese proverb at you to wrap this up'cause you've given me a lot of time today because I feel like we've danced around it. You've used some great quotes. There's some things in your book, I'm sure it's close, but there's something that I wrote down in my journal when I was about 16, 17 years old, and I think I literally got this out of a a Chinese restaurant cracker, what do they call the Fortune cookie portion Cookie. Okay. And I still have it somewhere in a book. I still have that somewhere. And it's the idea of, I I'm not gonna say this correctly, but it's a man who goes looking for love or searching for love, loses himself. That's great. And at that point in my life, I'm sure I was dating a girl and that was the idea of love was centerpiece. But the older I got, the more I started to understand the man who goes looking for success or looking for a scholarship or looking for something. That Lamborghini, tangible dollars loses himself. Is there a part of that in your book and is there a part of that in your career that you can give advice to families and kids? Yeah, I think it's kinda what we talked about. Prior of just where's your identity and knowing that you are enough right with it, that it's like I heard Wayne Dyer say, you can never get enough of what you don't need. All those things that you think will get you what you are looking for, they're empty. They won't what you really need is that internal peace, that internal knowing that you're enough, that you love who you are, that. You do you love who God created you to be? I also heard something today too that I don't know if it goes in alignment with it, but it's like however you got to the point. That where you're at, you have to continue that. So a lot of people, it's like they make sacrifices and compromises to get to that success. They're always gonna have to jump through those hoops in order to sustain it. So why don't you build your foundation on things that are within your value system that you don't have to compromise who you are. So I think the greatest thing that you could do for your athlete or for yourself in general is how can you start the internal mastery? How can you get comfortable with who you are so you don't need anything in order to fill you up? That would be my advice. Thank you for taking my hot mess of a question and making it articulate. I knew you would, but that's you sure throw those zingers at me. So I don't know if that made any sense, but oh my gosh. It was exactly what I wish I could have said and I knew you would. It's goes back to that foundation. It doesn't matter if we're playing or recruiting or building a family or building a business or whatever it may be. Don't lose. Don't lose the path you're on and who you are. Yeah. And if you don't know who you are, you gotta figure that out first, or you're gonna run into some real big obstacles down the road. That's a great point. It's, you gotta know who you are first. And quite frankly, sometimes that takes some life. I'm 30 years old. I'm still finding that guy out. I know him more. And like you said earlier, I don't know if it was on this segment or the last, but it's you need that experience. And sometimes the student I love this deal. It's like the teacher will appear when the student's ready and sometimes you're not ready at 18 years old, 20 years old, 25 years old, and quite frankly. I'm 30 years old, I'm sure at 40, I'm like shoot, I wasn't ready for that. But it's like the teacher will appear when the student's ready. And one of the greatest things that you could do, and maybe this message hits now, or maybe you listen to it 10 years from now and you go, you know what? I need to rearrange how I view things. It's not about the status I can get. It's not about the success I can get. It's about who am I, what are my values, what's my mission in life, and let me work off of that. Luke Faulk, you're an impressive young man and you're gonna do great things. And if there's ever anything I can do to help you or support you or market your book or market your message, you just holler and I'll be there. I appreciate it. This is a fun conversation for me. I'm looking forward to you sending me your book and hopefully we do this again. Anytime, whenever I can help you just holler my friend. Thanks, man. Wow, what an impressive young man and what a great story and message from NCAA Division one. Walk-on to NFL Quarterback to author and coach. Luke's story is filled with lessons on resilience leadership and what it really means to strengthen the mind. I was so impressed with the honesty and wisdom he shared, and I know he has so much more to give the world through his coaching in his new book, the Mind Strength Playbook. Make sure to visit coach luke faulk.com, L-U-K-E-F-A-L-K to connect with Luke and pre-order your copy of the Mind Strength Playbook releasing October 24th. 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